After the shocking news that “home grown” Muslim “terrorists” (more rightfully called jihadis) planned to blow up nine aircraft full of passengers mid-flight over US metropolitan areas which would have killed thousands of innocent people (mostly infidels in their eyes) – in other words, mass murder of enormous proportions – there have been renewed calls for more interfaith dialogue with “our Muslim brothers and sisters”. These calls for more interfaith dialogue are naïve at best, downright stupid, dangerous and appeasing at worst.
One engages in dialogue with people who are yielding enough, with people who are willing enough to shift their opinions somewhat, in order to be able to reach a compromise. Muslims are totally and utterly unyielding. There can be no compromise with them. None at all! They believe they are right. They believe they are God’s (more correctly Allah’s) chosen people, the people who have a monopoly on the truth. They believe that we are inferior beings to them simply because we do not belong to their faith group, because we have not accepted Muhammad as the final messenger of Allah. Further, they believe that we are unclean and unworthy. Their stated aim is to take over the world, to Islamize it. This is the aim of jihad. How can one engage successfully in dialogue with such people?
To engage in dialogue with Muslims is a futile exercise. Nothing will come out of it. Ex niliho nihil fit. This is not a defeatist attitude; rather, it is a realistic one. Islam is out to dominate the world, out to supersede Christianity as the only worthy faith, and out to annihilate Israel and the Jews. With such people, one does not engage in dialogue; rather, one fights them, one thwarts their ambitions, one vanquishes them.
In any case, what is there to discuss? Muslims deny all the basic tenets of Christianity: They deny that Jesus was the Son of God; they deny that Jesus was crucified (hence the cross is anathema to them); they deny that true Salvation can be found only when one accepts Jesus as one’s Redeemer; indeed, they deny that Jesus is the Christ.
If someone doesn’t believe in these basic tenets of our faith, then there is absolutely nothing to talk about.
In actual fact, Muslims believe that Islam is the perfection of religion for man for all time. They believe that Muhammad came to bring this perfection about. They believe that Muhammad was the ultimate prophet of Allah, and that Jesus was the penultimate one. Jesus is therefore a lesser ‘prophet’ in their eyes than Muhammad is. This should surely be anathema to Church leaders; but apparently it is not. So dilute has our faith become in the eyes of the Church elders!
It defies belief that our Church leaders are prepared and willing for Muslims to deny - absolutely - the raison d’être of the Church. What Church leaders should be urging their priests to do is evangelize, they should be bringing Muslims to task for their heinous crimes against humanity, and showing them the Way, the Truth and the Light. That, after all, is what they are paid to do; it’s their raison d’être. But they seem not to know it!
Do churchmen not know that every country in which Islam has put down roots it has eventually taken over and snuffed out Christianity almost for good. Egypt, Libya, Syria, and the Lebanon are good cases in point. Yes, there are still some Christians left in some of these countries – just – but these countries are now Islamic, and the indigenous populations are minorities in their own lands. Christianity never thrives where Islam takes hold. So what on earth are our Church leaders aiding this process of our own destruction for? Don’t they really believe that Jesus is the Christ? Don’t they really believe that Jesus was crucified for our sins? Don’t they really believe that Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Light?
Interfaith dialogue with Muslims is a waste of time and effort; so I do not believe in it. Rather, I believe in thwarting the enemy within, and making the enemy submit to our way of life. After all, if they don’t like it here, then they are free to leave and find other pastures. Nobody is keeping Muslims here; and there is easy access to airports throughout the UK. This is true not only for the UK, but for other Western countries, too. In fact, I would hazard a guess and say that the vast majority of Westerners would be relieved if they did leave, since hell will freeze over before Muslims integrate!
To get to this point, we have made many, many mistakes. Here are some of them…
First of all, we shouldn’t have allowed so many Muslims into the West in the first place. We should have done our homework first. Successive political leaders should have read a few history books on the 1400-year struggle between Christendom and Islam. That would have set off some alarms. Instead of this, nothing was learnt from history. People thought that the wheel could be reinvented. They were let in in their droves. And – astoundingly – they are still being let in! Moreover, if we truly live in a democracy, as our leaders keep telling us, then the people should have been consulted about allowing them in, and warned of the dangers of such a course of action.
Secondly, the ones that were let in should have been told – in no uncertain terms – that they can come here if they abide by our laws, and live according to our customs; otherwise they would not be welcome here. Instead of that, the West has gone down the politically-correct, multicultural route, thus forcing the indigenous population to make all the concessions. I always liken it to guests in my home: They are always welcome, as long as they abide by the rules of the house. I make the rules in my household. I am always the boss in my own home. Once someone starts to tell me how I should run my home, I politely show him/her the door. This should have been done with these immigrants from the start. They need to be placed on the defensive. They must be shown that they are not in the driving seat in our countries, no more than we are in the driving seat in theirs.
Thirdly, who gave our leaders the permission to try and turn our countries into pluralistic havens anyway, into utopias for all the peoples of the world. Were you ever asked to vote on this? I wasn’t; I know that. And had I been asked, I would have voted a firm ‘no’, without any hesitation.
The politicians have got themselves into a fix; and they don’t know how to get out of it. They haven’t got the courage to take the necessary Draconian measures to fix this problem, so they ask for dialogue instead. This goes for the Church, too. They no longer believe in the Scriptures as they should do; so they embark on a dilution of our faith instead, so that it doesn’t offend Muslims. Church leaders will never fill the empty pews that way. People are sick and tired of their prattling! That probably goes a long way to answer why the pews in Europe are pretty empty, and are continuing to empty still further, too.
We have embarked on a perilous journey: a journey of self-destruction. If people don’t wake up to the realities of what we are facing soon, then it will be too late. It is already five to midnight!
President Bush, for the first time in a long time, had the courage recently to state that we are engaged in a war with “Islamic fascists”. This is the most truthful thing he has stated in a very long time. I applaud him for having the courage to say it. He should say it again and again, until it sinks in with the general public. But if he really wants to hit the nail on the head, he should come out and say that this is not so much a “war on terror”, but a ‘war on the jihad’, the jihad which is out to annihilate us, and annihilate freedom and democracy, and annihilate all that the West stands for. This is indeed a battle between two civilizations. In such a battle, there is no room for dialogue, there is room only for victory. For, as Churchill so wisely stated during the Second World War, “without victory, there is no survival”. That, ladies and gentlemen, is why I say: You 'interfaith' if you want to. This gentleman is not for ‘interfaithing’!
©Mark Alexander
24 comments:
SPOT ON MARK --- AS USUAL. I can't add a word to what you have said. I hope our politicians and church leaders listen and act accordingly before it is too late.
So be it!
Let:
"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war"
And
"Death to Islam"
be our battle cry....
Ronald:
Welcome!
If they can say "Death to the US!", "Death to the Great Satan!", and "Death to the West!", then why can't we also say, loud and clear, "Death to Islam!" What is sauce for the goose, is surely also sauce for the gander.
US Iconoclastic Patriot:
Thank you!
I doubt that the Church leaders and politicians will act "before it is too late". They are cowards to a man!
Mark,
Outstanding essay! You really found "your voice" with this one!
To engage in dialogue with Muslims is a futile exercise. Nothing will come out of it.
On CNN the other night, a Muslim being interviewed said something like this: "We do not turn the other cheek. We are Muslims!"
How much plainer can it be?
President Bush, for the first time in a long time, had the courage recently to state that we are engaged in a war with “Islamic fascists”.
And has he ever caught grief for it from the "Muslim civil-rights groups"! I'm guessing that he may be pressured from all sides not to use such an offensive-to-Muslims term again. I hope I'm wrong, because GWB came the closest to naming the enemy than he ever has previously.
Always:
Thank you!
Unfortunately, only this evening, I read that GWB has already apologized to the Saudis for his words. I don't know how true this is, of course. I really hope that it isn't.
Mark,
only this evening, I read that GWB has already apologized to the Saudis for his words.
I haven't seen that story! But considering GWB's ties to the Saudis, I wouldn't be surprised.
Right on the money Mark. Alas it is sad that no politician has, not only the courage but also the intellect to say what needs to be said so unequivically. As you clearly point out, we need to stand up and say ENOUGH. Actually, now that needs to be said to our political elites. For should they dither around much longer, a case may be made for their actions, or lack thereof, to be interpreted as treason, for it is, or will be an act of betrayal upon their obligations, implied by their assumption of office.
Our problem is that far too many politicos see themselves as some sort of Lords of the Manor, bringing largesse and blessings to the masses, they are after all, so much more intellectually and morally superior to mere mortals.
In your brilliant essay, you say that if actions are not taken soon, that it will be too late. I tend to think that if actions are not taken soon, then the electorate will swing to the extremes. The Grauniads will man the barricades (as is always their wont), to shout stupid, meaningless slogans, while the majority votes for the BNP. Yes I know, in many circles that will be beyond the pale, but if no one else is offering a viable alternative, they will take the prize by default. I just do not see any political groupings in the UK, with more than the barest minimmum of understanding of the enourmous problems facing our societies. Thanks a lot to the smug, conceited, PostModernist, multiculturalists. Tolerance is a noble virtue, but like anything else good, when perverted to serve the causes of a latent ideology of moral turpitude, it becomes corrupted to the augean stench, with which we are confronted today.
I hate to say it, but, like many others, I think that this will end in civil war throughout Europe. I just hope those long suffering populations remember, just who it was who brought them to this pass.
Again, thank you Mark, for the truth once more.
I don't know quite what happened there. I did not install those two links in the above post, they just appeared.So sorry for any confusion, but I am as confused as everyone else. Ho Hum!
Now that I've read the story about GWB's cave-in to the SAUDI CABINET, I'm hopping mad! And despairing as well. Ugh!
Quisabelle:
Great comment there! By the way, thanks for your kind words.
Just Another Richard:
Welcome back! And a big thank you for your kind words. They are much appreciated.
Big Cat Lady:
Muhammad must be the false prophet to end all false prophets; indeed, he must surely be the Antichrist! But as you say, this fact is being ignored by all.
Mark,
I see that this essay is getting some attention. As well it should!
An awesome essay that I suspect will fall on deaf ears and blind eyes.
Mark said:
If they can say "Death to the US!", "Death to the Great Satan!", and "Death to the West!", then why can't we also say, loud and clear, "Death to Islam!" What is sauce for the goose, is surely also sauce for the gander.
I've read most of the posts on your website and I agree 100% with your takes on this issue: We must wage Sherman style Total War against Islam -- and the most effective way to do that is to go down into the sewers of the Middle East and take out the King Rat Mullahs first.
So you have written a book on the subject?
With such people, one does not engage in dialogue; rather, one fights them, one thwarts their ambitions, one vanquishes them.
Absolutely, Mark! Great essay, and thanks for keeping up my morale and doubtless the morale of many thousands of other like-minded people. The west seems to be muddling through the 1939-appeasement ritual. Question is: is there a Churchill? When will we see our leaders really take up this deadly serious challenge? As mediocre as they are, my fear is the desperate deterioration in the situation and the movement to total appeasement and surrender once Bush and Blair have departed. It's not a comfortable thought...
Keep up the great work!
The Way To K:
Thank you so much! I fear my words will fall on deaf ears, too.
Ronald:
I've read most of the posts on your website and I agree 100% with your takes on this issue: We must wage Sherman style Total War against Islam -- and the most effective way to do that is to go down into the sewers of the Middle East and take out the King Rat Mullahs first.
It makes me very happy that you agree with my take on this subject. Thank you for telling me this. It is very encouraging news.
So you have written a book on the subject?
Yes, I have. The book is called 'The Dawning of a New Dark Age'.
Rockmother:
Absolutely, Mark! Great essay, and thanks for keeping up my morale and doubtless the morale of many thousands of other like-minded people.
I am so glad you liked the essay; and it makes me so happy to know that I am helping you keep up your morale. I hope it helps keep up the morale of other like-minded people, too.
The west seems to be muddling through the 1939-appeasement ritual. Question is: is there a Churchill?
Yes, the West is muddling through all right. There appears to be no strategy whatsoever. As for there being another Churchill, he certainly isn't on the horizon at the moment. That's the sad thing.
When will we see our leaders really take up this deadly serious challenge?
The question is: Will thy ever?
As mediocre as they are, my fear is the desperate deterioration in the situation and the movement to total appeasement and surrender once Bush and Blair have departed. It's not a comfortable thought...
It's a very uncomfortable thought!
Keep up the great work!
Thank you! I shall certainly try to do so.
Ronald,
I recommend Mark's book. It's reader-friendly and in essay format. Because the chapters are short, the book won't "wear you out."
As I've said before, inter-faith dialogue? give me a break, Jesus and Mohummad are polar opposites, one arrives on a donkey preaching turn the other cheek and forgiveness, the other is a crazed mad-man (how many wives and god knows what else?) who spread his message by the sword.
Rock on Mark! Excellent essay!
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