So now we have it on good authority: Osama bin Laden and his ilk want to turn the West away from its civilized past and wants the United States to convert to Islam, ditch its constitution, abolish banks, jail homosexuals and sign the Kyoto climate change treaty. (Source: Daily Telegraph, November 17, 2005). As if we didn't know it all before - though many, many people are still in denial about it - it has now all come out in a book : Messages to the World: The Statements of Osama bin Laden.
Osama bin Laden wants the United States to convert to Islam, ditch its constitution, abolish banks, jail homosexuals and sign the Kyoto climate change treaty...His terms for America's surrender appeared after the September 2001 suicide attacks and include demands that amount to the abandonment of much of western life.Let no-one be in any doubt about the intentions of Islam any longer. I feel vindicated, since if this happens the world really will be turned into darkness. The lights will go out; and benightedness will rule the world!
Alcohol and gambling would be barred and there would be an end to women's photos in newspapers or advertising.
Any woman serving "passengers, visitors and strangers", presumably anyone from air stewardesses to waitresses, would also be out of a job.
The West must "stop your oppression, lies, immorality and debauchery that has spread among you" and has become the "worst civilisation witnessed in the history of mankind". (Source: Daily Telegraph: November 17, 2005)
Robert Spencer, Trifkovic, Ibn Warraq, Hugh Fitzgerald, Bostom, et al are all vindicated, too. What we have all been saying can now be seen to be true. We do not exaggerate.
Now before we go any further, do not make the mistake of trying to separate the words of OBL from the words of the so-called dissembling moderates: There is only ONE Islam, and this is the Islam which Osama bin Laden is espousing. To believe otherwise is to live in ignorance; to act as though these words are just the rantings of a maniac, as our leaders are inclined to do, is the height of irresponsibility and negligence towards the future and security of the western electorate.
The West, as OBL rightly implies, is in a battle to the death: Folks, it's either theirs, or ours! It's as simple as that!
Osama bin Laden says: The West must "stop your [its] oppression, lies, immorality and debauchery that has spread among you [us]"..."[the West is the] worst civilisation witnessed in the history of mankind".
Really Osama, really! Let's look a little closer at these words, for they are truly interesting.
As I have told you before, Muslims - not just OBL - believe that we are living in a state of Jahiliyyah, a state of moral chaos. Far be it from me to state that the West doesn't have its fair share of immorality: it is everywhere around us, for all to observe. However, you shouldn't be too smug Osama, because I can tell you, from first-hand experience, that the Islamic Middle East, the birthplace of Islam, suffers just as much as we do from immorality, and probably even more! The difference between us is this: the Western world admits to it, and is open; the Islamic world does not, and is closed. In the Gulf, for example, immorality is swept under the carpet, for it to be hidden from view! Drug-taking, prostitution, homosexuality, alcoholism are all endemic in the Middle East, and largely because of the constraints of Islam! It's all part of the 'forbidden fruits syndrome'!
Go and live in the Middle East for a while, and observe for yourself the high incidence of men seducing men! If you are attractive, you had better wear a burkah, too, since young, frisky Middle Easterners have nobody to turn to to vent their highly-charged emotions, except for the attractive, handsome foreigners employed there!
Islam imposes enormous restrictions on their young men, since they cannot live a normal life. What do you think a young, maturing man does when faced with a situation in which he is denied all access to young, beautiful women?
As a result of these restrictions, they also turn to prostitutes, and probably in far greater numbers than their Western counterparts, since in the West, most people do not have to do this if they wish to satisfy their natural sexual desires. Take Iran as a case in point: That country has enormous problems with prostitution. What else can we really expect when people are so constrained?
Then we have the problem of drug-taking. Many young people are forced to turn to drugs because they cannot find another way of pursuing pleasure. After all, Islam denies them all normal pleasures. Do you really think that all people wish to turn to Allah in prayer five times a day? Is this the kind of life that God really wants for His people? Is there really nothing else in life than talking about religion, praying to Allah, and thinking about Him, and observing all those rituals? Do you really think you are going to be damned to eternal damnation for missing some prayers?
Let's take alcoholism as another of their endemic problems. This is a huge problem in the region. They just don't tell you about it. But I can tell you that there is a very big black market in the Middle East for alcohol, especially whisky. Johnny Walker Black Label is a particular favourite of theirs! At the time I lived there, it sold for £75 a bottle on the black market! It is probably far more expensive these days.
For those who couldn't source it, or for those who couldn't afford it, they would turn to the home-stilled stuff: Siddiqi, 'my friend'! That stuff, unless properly made and sourced, could turn you blind, for alcohol comes in two sorts: ethanol and methanol. People, there, have to be very careful.
You see, people are, in many ways, the same the world over: We all need our kicks from time to time; otherwise life becomes unbearable for us. Muslims are no different. Islam may be all right for the devout; but we cannot all be that devout; indeed, some people don't even wish to be!
I dare say that if the people of the Middle East were freed up, you would find that the problems of homosexuality, prostitution, drug-taking, and alcoholism would be fewer for the authorities to deal with. People, then, would be free to pursue their pleasures in more normal ways.
As for the West stopping its oppression..that's a joke, Osama! How hypocritical can you be? Who oppresses people more than the Saudi government, or any other Islamic governments for that matter? Women, as we all know, are not free, homosexuals, if caught, are punished severely - the official punishment in Islam is to throw the homosexual off the top of the local minaret! - alcoholics, and even those just imbibing a little, if caught, are punished by the whip. Oh, Osama, and don't talk to me about the debauchery of the West. You have enough debauchery where you live. As the saying goes: Get your own house in order first, before you come preaching to us about our lack of morality. That should keep you busy for a long time to come!
We don't want your beloved Islam to take over here in the West: We have a more civilized world as it is. Sure, it could be better; but then life isn't perfect. After all is said and done, we don't stone women to death by burying them up to the shoulders in sand, and then letting the mob start the lapidation! We don't behead people in the public square in barabraic fashion! We don't subject people to lashings for imbibing in a drop of alcohol! And we don't kill and maim people either, for having beliefs which we do not subscribe to.
The true chaos is not actually here in the West, but there, in the Islamic world. Now let's determine to keep it there. Before the world is thrust into a new dark age!
Further, you say that the West is the "worst civilisation witnessed in the history of mankind". Really, Osama! When the Islamic world has achieved in science, the arts, literature, music, educational standards, liberty, and living standards previously unheard of in the history of the world, then come back and speak to us. Till then, get working! You have a mountain of work before you!
©Mark Alexander
4 comments:
I saw this in the article from the Daily Telegraph:
The book's introduction is written by Prof Bruce Lawrence who teaches Islamic studies at Duke University, North Carolina and describes the terrorist as "one of the best prose writers in Arabic".
Duke University has, for a long time, had Islamic studies which promote conversion to Islam. In fact, students there were, if not still are, required to read the Koran, but not with the idea of critiquing it. Oh, no! Criticizing the Koran would be politically incorrect and might offend someone. Never mind that the Christian Bible is read with such criticism as the goal!
Recently, CAIR and the ACLU teamed up to try to force North Carolina to allow the Koran as the "holy" book on which witnesses are to swear their testimony. The measure didn't fly because the NC state constitution specifies that the only "holy" book used for that purpose must be the Bible (I believe that witnesses can make an affirmation without any "holy' book, but I'm not sure). And, of course, no mention of taqiyya was mentioned in the court case in NC.
According to OBL, The West must "stop your oppression, lies, immorality and debauchery that has spread among you" and has become the "worst civilisation witnessed in the history of mankind". That's backwards! And Mark, you're right (as are Spencer, Ibn Warraq, Fallaci, and many others): no room for compromise! Islam itself is a my-way-or-the-highway ideology.
Good expose here of what goes on in those "righteous" Middle Eastern nations. Too few are aware of the facts with regard to the moral issues you have brought up here.
Always On Watch:
There are so many moral issues to bring up, too!
Mark, Right on target, as usual! I am waiting for the so-called moderate Muslims to rise up in righteous indignation to deny that Islam teaches what OBL is calling for. So far, however, no one seems to want to take him on. No Muslim seems to be protesting that he is a radical extremist. Only non-Muslim westerners appear to make such assertions and then without any proof or even confirming examples. I suppose that this is not unrelated to the fact that "moderate" Muslims in France are not reining in their violent rioting children. Please tell me, where are and who are these moderates whom the western non-Muslims (usually politicians) claim represent the "true" Islam? I don't hear or see them anywhere.... Tell me, where have all the moderates gone???????
I read in the morning paper that a Saudi teacher has been sentenced to 750 lashes and 40 months in prison for discussing religion and defending Jews in his classroom. I gather that this is the kind of thing we are in for should Muslims realize thier objective of Islamicizing the West. It is difficult to believe that such medieval, barbaric practices are employed by anyone in any place in 2005. It beggars belief!!! But I guess that is the consequence of what you are saying in your post, Mark. Many thanks for standing up for liberty and civilized society. If this is any indication, one certainly would not describe the type of "justice" meted out in Saudi Arabia as civilized!!!
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