French President Emmanuel Macron and US President Donald Trump have been at odds on many issues. This week that divide went further when President Macron appeared to call for the creation of a European army. Macron says Europe needs to defend itself against potential threats from nations including Russia, China and even the United States.
But it's not just about defence - the two leaders differ on almost every issue. Trump has pulled out of a number of global treaties from climate change to the Iran nuclear deal, and recently the disarmament treaty with Russia.
While Macron has repeatedly emphasised the need for a global order and rejection of nationalism. He made the call during Sunday's remembrance ceremony in Paris to mark the 100th anniversary of the end of the First World War.
But can Europe do without the US in matters of defence?
Presenter: Richelle Carey | Guests: Renaud Girard - Chief Foreign Correspondent at Le Figaro newspaper; David DesRoches - Associate Professor at the National Defense University and former Pentagon Official; Glenn Diesen - Professor of International Relations at Higher School of Economics in Moscow
