Choudary pushed back against Western "propaganda," saying he is simply trying to encourage the following of Islamic law in a "den of iniquity." Carlson shot back, "This isn't Pakistan, this is Great Britain!"
He continued on to say that "troublemakers like you are thrown in prison in Pakistan," and called him out for being a beneficiary of social services in the country he's condemning as decadent. Choudary said the legal notice is actually "intended to provoke discussion" and warn of ultimate punishment in the afterlife.
Carlson concluded by asking, "Will you concede that your unwillingness to denounce violence makes your program repulsive to people in the West and decent people everywhere?" Choudary insisted that "we're not threatening anyone with violence."