Christian Nationalism vs Clown World | Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Oct 9, 2025 | Doug Wilson, Evangelical pastor and self-proclaimed Christian nationalist, has been preaching for decades that America needs to reclaim its Puritan past. But in 2025, he believes he’s “significantly” more influential. Does that mean America is closer to Wilson’s goal of theocracy? In this episode, nothing is off limits — even Ross’s own salvation.

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There must be an awful lot of crackpots in America these days! Their erroneous thinking must be being caused by eating all that junk food and by reading all those religious tracts from the Bible belt which must surely be leading them astray. — © Mark Alexander