Alert! Anti-dhimmitude from the Conservatives:
THE SUNDAY TELEGRAPH: The Conservatives today accuse Muslim leaders of encouraging "voluntary apartheid" in Britain by shutting themselves away in closed societies and demanding protection from criticism.
David Davis, the shadow home secretary, says that Britain risks social and religious divisions so profound that society's very foundations, such as the freedom of speech, will become "corroded" and that the perfect conditions for home-grown terrorism will be created.
His stark intervention, in an article for The Sunday Telegraph, represents a toughening of the Tory stance on the dangers of Islamic radicalism and follows calls from some leading ministers for Muslim women to remove their veils. It is also a departure from the "caring Conservatism" message laid out by David Cameron.
Mr Davis says he supports the stance on veils adopted by Jack Straw, the Commons Leader, but believes the wider issue is one of the "very unity of our nation".
"What Jack touched on was the fundamental issue of whether, in Britain, we are developing a divided society. Whether we are creating a series of closed societies within our open society. Whether we are inadvertently encouraging a kind of voluntary apartheid. Tories accuse Muslims of 'creating apartheid by shutting themselves off' by Patrick Hennessy and Melissa Kite
And this article by David Davis:
THE SUNDAY TELEGRAPH: There are some issues that are so explosive they are only capable of being resolved if they are handled coolly and analytically. These are the unexploded bombs of modern politics and 10 days ago Jack Straw detonated one of them with his comments on the use of the veil by Muslim women.Mark Alexander
The shock waves have reverberated around Britain, loudest in the Muslim communities. Which is not to say Jack Straw was wrong. He was not. His comments were perfectly proper and he highlighted an issue that is both important and difficult: the question of the very unity of our nation. Do Muslims really want apartheid here?
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Isn't it always a surprise, the trigger, the trigger that changes things, awakens the West. The Mo cartoons, Jack Straw, the uberappeaser, asks veiled women to remove their veil in his office. Each may have awakened the citizens of Denmark and England. What will it be in America? in Canada?
Yes, who would have thought, John, that Jack Straw, of all people, would have been the one to get this thing kicked up a notch? As you say, he has always been such an appeaser.
Apparently, the poor blighters are already sending letters here, there, and everywhere in political circles, complaining about being victimized. The poor little victimized darlings!
Even the uninformed general public can see what's going on, and are growing sick and tired of Muslims. And 'Blair the Appeaser' can't do a damn thing about that!
The right are mobilizing right across Europe. It was reported even on the "New Duranty Times"! The heading: Across Europe, Worries on Islam Spread to Center
I fear for America too, because Americans, in general, are far too tolerant for their own good. I mean look at Bush equating this 'religion' with Christianity, and holding Iftaar dinners, etc. And all that BS he's talked over the years about Islam being the ROP, and that OBL has bastardized an otherwise "wonderful" religion. Did you read what I said about that? You'll find it in bright yellow on the sidebar.
By the way, have you watched the video underneath, showing that silly Muslim teacher insisting on her rights to teach in school complete with the full veil? Eventhough it's sickening, it's worth watching just to see how arrogant and stupid these people are.
The longest grass gets mown first.
So much attention is being drawn by the Muslim news grabbing stories, that there is bound to be a reaction against them.
People soon tire of those that whinge about the same issues, everyday.
It is quite plain to any British citizen, that the majority of Muslims are doing very well thankyou.
I am sure those well-off ones are beginning to get a bit worried over the security of their wealth in Western Countries.
With so much tied up in property, threy would have much to lose in a backlash.
This is a typical "own goal" caused by the overplaying of irrelevant issues. Religion does not need a dress code, to signify the purity of the wearers of a particular form of dress.
Sikhs have secured the right to wear their turbans, even on motorbikes.
The muslims wear their garb on the streets and no one says a word.
It is only when the personal choices of a particular sect are extended by various means into the normal functioning of the host community, that it becomes an issue of importance.
The whole matter has been over extended to the point of an excuse to inpose a particular school of thought onto the majority community who respects the wisdom of seein the faces of those whom we deal with every day.
People have seen this in the latest "veil" issue, where we see a young woman playing the race and religion card to become a kind of martyr to those who want to usurp the traditions of one of the most ancient and civilised nations in the world.
It just will not happen.
There are limits, and these are being defined as we speak.
By the people at large.
Denny:
I have an even better solution: Why don't ALL Muslims go to countries where Shari'ah law is enforced. That would relieve the West of its headache.
I am in favour of mass repatriation. To hell with the needs of business. The survival of our civilization must come first. Muslims don't belong here in the West; and they will NEVER fit in. They have no intention of ever doing so.
Moreover, our politicians over the past decades had absolutely no right to allow all these Muslims in without a mandate from the people. They have assumed a hell of a lot. But the people will revolt. The clash - the bloodbath - is coming. You mark my words!
You make the mistake of making a separation between fundamentalist Islam and Islam proper. There is no real distinction. There is only ONE Islam. The fundamentalists are the Muslims who follow their faith properly, and to the letter. The so-called moderate Muslims are Muslim only in name. They are nominal Muslims. But a nominal Muslim can re-discover his real faith in a heartbeat. Don't forget that!
Mirrorman:
The longest grass gets mown first.
It always does. Just as it is the squeaking gate that gets the oil!
So much attention is being drawn by the Muslim news grabbing stories, that there is bound to be a reaction against them. People soon tire of those that whinge about the same issues, everyday.
Yes, they are doing all this on purpose. It's a ploy to further their Islamic cause. And we will be FOOLS to let them get away with it.
It is quite plain to any British citizen, that the majority of Muslims are doing very well thankyou.
Yes, but that's not enough for them. They want to impose Islam on the rest of society. Let them go to HELL!
I am sure those well-off ones are beginning to get a bit worried over the security of their wealth in Western Countries. With so much tied up in property, threy would have much to lose in a backlash.
Who cares? They should realize that Europe, once roused, is capable of dreadful things. If I were a Muslim, I should be feeling most uncomfortable about how things are turning against Islam.
This is a typical "own goal" caused by the overplaying of irrelevant issues. Religion does not need a dress code, to signify the purity of the wearers of a particular form of dress.
Exactly! As if wearing a veil or a beard makes any difference to God. Give me a break!
Sikhs have secured the right to wear their turbans, even on motorbikes. The muslims wear their garb on the streets and no one says a word. It is only when the personal choices of a particular sect are extended by various means into the normal functioning of the host community, that it becomes an issue of importance.
They don't know when the going is good for them. As you say: They're overplaying their hand. And it's going to backfire - BIG TIME!
The whole matter has been over extended to the point of an excuse to inpose a particular school of thought onto the majority community who respects the wisdom of seein the faces of those whom we deal with every day.
WE DON'T WANT YOUR 'RELIGION' IMPOSED ON US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MUHAMMAD AND FARIDA!
People have seen this in the latest "veil" issue, where we see a young woman playing the race and religion card to become a kind of martyr to those who want to usurp the traditions of one of the most ancient and civilised nations in the world.
It's certainly not a race issue. Islam is not a race.
It just will not happen. There are limits, and these are being defined as we speak. By the people at large.
Yes, and that limit is in the process of being reached. Muslims are pushing British tolerance to its limits.
It must be awful to belong to such a despised group.
Mark - Conquest can occur without firing a shot using the weapon of voluntary apartheid.
First, a Muslim enters the community and begins the process of Da'wa, or perhaps marries and converts a non-Muslim, creating a household.
Naturally children come along. Then they all participate in Da'wa while encouraging their neighbors to join Islam. Some will prefer to move away and often those homes are sold to Muslims as non-Muslims would be loathe to live there.
Soon all the homes on that street are Muslim. The same is occurring on nearby streets and eventually the whole neighborhood is occupied only by Muslims.
At this point, the pattern to become insular. Only Muslims should go there and Shar'ia norms will be enforced.
On the fringes of that neighborhood, the same process begins again as the territory expands to include townships, villages, small cities as non-Muslims either conform or flee, often into the countryside, away from the centers of power and culture, thus losing contact with and power in government.
The conquest steps: one person, one household, one street, one neighborhood, one township or village, one city, one region at a time, and finally the whole nation has been engulfed as the non-Muslims, controllable in the hinterlands have been reduced to a state of peasantry where uprisings are easier to put down. They are kept as labor or finally convinced to convert.
We simply must not allow voluntary apartheid as it is the begiining of losing the whole enchilada.
Eleanor:
Your description of how our societies can be taken over without firing a shot is so, so accurate. Westerners need to stop trying to be so fair to these people. At some point, we need to start being fair to ourselves. Charity, as they say, begins at home.
Further, sometimes, as you know, we need to be cruel to be kind. Why don't we put these immigrants out of their misery and repatriate them to somehwere they can enjoy the Shari'ah norms they seem so desperately to desire? That way, we can spare them, and us, the bloodbath which will most definitely ensue, once people start to realize that our governments are taking only inadequate measures to deal with this threat.
It looks as though civil war will be the inevitable outcome.
When will people come to understand the simple fact that oil and water just do not mix?
john sobieski Excellent point! Let's just hope that those in American and Canada will wake up before it is too late. To be certain, it is very encouraging to see the British wake up even though it is with a start.
eleanor Spot on, Eleanor! We have seen the phenomenon you describe happening over and over again throughout history. Imagine that, it is happening again with the Muslims and for obvious reasons and with obvious outcomes.
After all who wants to live anywhere near people who have no respect for our culture or civilization. All they want to do is to convert us to their silly, wacko 'religion.' They demonstrate NO interest, much less a track record, of wanting to contribute to the advance and uplifting of human civilization. Rather they only want to tear down and intimidate and kill until decent people convert to their wacko religion. There is apparently NO interest in art or science or literature; only a pathological interest in their wacko religion. What decent person would want to live next door to a barbarian such as this? No one, of course, and hence the phenomenon you describe so well. Many thanks, Eleanor.
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