Wednesday, September 20, 2006

Former Archbishop takes tough stand on Islam
THE TIMES: THE former Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Carey of Clifton has issued his own challenge to “violent” Islam in a lecture in which he defends the Pope’s “extraordinarily effective and lucid” speech.

Lord Carey said that Muslims must address “with great urgency” their religion’s association with violence. He made it clear that he believed the “clash of civilisations” endangering the world was not between Islamist extremists and the West, but with Islam as a whole.

“We are living in dangerous and potentially cataclysmic times,” he said. “There will be no significant material and economic progress [in Muslim communities] until the Muslim mind is allowed to challenge the status quo of Muslim conventions and even their most cherished shibboleths.” Carey backs Pope and issues warning on 'violent' Islam by Ruth Gledhill and Richard Owen
Mark Alexander

9 comments:

Mark said...

Franze:

Yes I did read what Cardinal Pell said. In fact, here is the article.

I agree with you: These people need to be backed by the people for their words to have any real impact.

The Pope's statement that he has "deep respect" for Islam shocks and disappoints me. The Pope should say no more; otherwise he will undo all the good he has done!

How can he have "deep respect" for a people who refuse Christ and say he was a Muslim? It might be politic for him to say this, but it is surely ABSURD!

cybercrusader said...

I am quite heartened by this strong statement by Lord Carey of Clifton. I was beginning to think that the Christian clergy were going to abandon the Faith, being intimidated by the apostles of political correctness and the desert barbarians. BRAVO Lord Carey!

Mark said...

Bubba's Pravda:

Assalamu Alaikum?

w aleikum assalam!

Though I don't quite know why we're using an Arabic greeting!

The Beast of Revalation DEMANDS WORSHIP!

Doesn't he, though? Slay the beast!

Mark said...

USIP:

I am quite heartened by this strong statement by Lord Carey of Clifton. I was beginning to think that the Christian clergy were going to abandon the Faith, being intimidated by the apostles of political correctness and the desert barbarians. BRAVO Lord Carey!

Yes, so am I! At last someone has come out and called the enemy by its name: Islam! And for those who didn't know, the followers of Islam are called Muslims! Please take note!

I join you in saying to George Carey: BRAVO!

The Old Nail said...

Mark, thanks for the link to pell I missed that one.

Also, it was good to read bubba's post as it shows one more person has a good understanding of what Islam is about.

As I peruse different blogs from time to time, and I watch the trends in the national (UK) media, I am heartened to see that there might just be an awakening of sorts happening in the west.

What the general public need is a program of education concerning Muslim values and aims, as Bubba suggests;

"Look up the terms: dhimmi, jizyah, and taqiyya. Learn. The average Muslim on the streets of Europe believes that the Quran is supreme over the laws of Europe. Research what honor killings are."

That comment is spot on, and I would like to bet that a very high percentage of westerners would be shocked/enraged to learn the meaning of those words!

Mark said...

Old Nail:

Mark, thanks for the link to pell I missed that one.

You're more than welcome.

Also, it was good to read bubba's post as it shows one more person has a good understanding of what Islam is about.

Yes, Bubba's post was a very good one.

As I peruse different blogs from time to time, and I watch the trends in the national (UK) media, I am heartened to see that there might just be an awakening of sorts happening in the west.

I do hope you're right! I have yet to discern much of a shift.

What the general public need is a program of education concerning Muslim values and aims, as Bubba suggests;

"Look up the terms: dhimmi, jizyah, and taqiyya. Learn. The average Muslim on the streets of Europe believes that the Quran is supreme over the laws of Europe. Research what honor killings are."

That comment is spot on, and I would like to bet that a very high percentage of westerners would be shocked/enraged to learn the meaning of those words!


They would indeed be shocked. But getting them to stay still, to get them off their whirli-go-round of money-making and enjoyment trip for long enough would help them to be able to comprehend the catastrophic changes taking place about them! Then, perhaps, they really will begin to understand.

Average Family Guy said...

Mark -
Notice the ? at the end:
Assalamu Alaikum? Just a little tongue in cheek commentary on the sincere greeting of the Islamists.

Bubba's Pravda
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Mark said...

Bubba's Pravda:

Mark -
Notice the ? at the end:
Assalamu Alaikum? Just a little tongue in cheek commentary on the sincere greeting of the Islamists.


Okay. Understood, Bubba.

Bubba's Pravda
Always Stuck On Stupid

Mark said...

Big Cat Lady:

The truth is that we who are Christian are living in the last times. This clash we are seeing between Christians and Muslims is the earthly verson of the eternel clash between God and Satan.

What a depressing thought!