More evidence of the 'New Dark Age'
A man is being held by German police after walking into a petrol station with his wife's severed head in a bag.
The 40-year-old man, of Turkish origin, was covered in blood when he approached the night counter at about 0400 GMT and asked the attendant to call the police.
Hamburg police said officers found the head in a bag on a grass verge and arrested the man, who was in a confused state and admitted killing his wife.
The body of the woman, aged 39, was found in their nearby flat.
Read it all: Man found with wife's head in bag
Mark
17 comments:
Yes, JudahQ. But it sounds awfully suspicious and reeks of Islam to me.
What has Islam done for you today?:
Indeed, where are we going? And what are our politicians doing about it all? Nothing! They're just keeping stumm!
BTW, thanks for that link. I'll go and check it out now.
That's a link that EVERYONE of my visitors should read! Here it is again:
A woman stoned to death in Marseilles
Mark,
From what I've read, Germany has had a lot of "honor killings" by Muslims in recent years via the Religion of Peace. They are virtually always male relatives killing a female family member who has brought "shame" on the family. Doesn't Germany have a relatively large Muslim population? I know the Muslim Brotherhood has made large inroads in the political system in recent years.
I thought GOV's observations about Trinidad were important. They seem to have a growing population of Muslims. Do you know anything about this? Here's the link:
Trouble in Trinidad
Do you see any trends for the Western Hemisphere? I know there is a so-called Muslim triangle in South America.
Feel free to answer any or all questions as you have the time--I always appreciate your expertise, even though we may not always agree!
I have been busy painting for the last week--oh joy! I mean painting rooms, not an artistic endeavor.
Heather,
Nice to see you commenting here again.
Bld:
I suppose I couldn't understand your comment because I wasn't familiar with the story "up north" about the take-away restaurant. I've been in the States for a while, and have only just returned home.
Mark
Always:
Ditto.
Heather:
From what I've read, Germany has had a lot of "honor killings" by Muslims in recent years via the Religion of Peace. They are virtually always male relatives killing a female family member who has brought "shame" on the family. Doesn't Germany have a relatively large Muslim population?
Germany's Muslim population is far too large, but it's smaller than France's. They come mainly from Turkey. They went there originally as Gastarbeiter, or guest workers, but never returned home.
Yes, you're right. the killing does seem to go one way: Males killing females, and usually for bringing 'dishonour' on the family. These people just don't fit in with Western values. They are from a bygone age.
Thank you for the Trinidad link. No, I know virtually nothing about the Muslim population of Trinidad, or anything else about Trinidad if it comes to that. That's not my particular sphere of interest.
Do you see any trends for the Western Hemisphere?
It seems that you haven't read my book yet, since you probably wouldn't be asking me that question otherwise. If you wish to find out what my thoughts are on this, then might I gently suggest that you do so. Remember: People buying my book is what makes it possible for me to spend so much time at my computer giving away all my hard-earned knowledge for free.
I always appreciate your expertise, even though we may not always agree!
I really do think you would have a better understanding of where I am coming from vis-à-vis Islam if you read my book.
You say we don't always agree. No, we don't. But you have mentioned before that you have found I have usually been right in the end. That must say something for me, mustn't it?
Correct me if I am wrong, but I know you to be a GWB supporter, and I also know that you have family in the military, maybe even out in Iraq. So I understand full well where you are coming from on these issues. I understand where your reluctance to agree with my viewpoints stems from. Vested interests and all that.
But I tell it as I understand it, and I have been saying the same things for about twenty years now, albeit not on the Internet. I can honestly say that everything I warned about back then, including something like a 9/11 catastrophe, has come to pass.
Different from you, I am no Bush supporter. I used to be. But not any longer. The reason: It is clear to me that he doesn't understand Islam. In the beginning, I thought he did, and I was a supporter of his. In fact, you could have called me even a fan of his. But his pronouncements about Islam being a 'religion of peace' make me want to vomit. Moreover, his policy of trying to bring democracy to the Middle East is destined to fail.
You see, Heather, I will not say what you want to hear; rather, I will say what I believe to be true. In modern parlance, I tell it like it is. The truth, as we all know, often hurts.
There is so much about GWB's policies which have turned me against him. Though were I to be an American, I would in all probability be a Republican. I am a right-wing person, but I take each issue and assess it on its merits.
Just because I am right-wing, that doesn't make me right-wing in everything.
Having just spent three months in the States, I have returned more convinced than ever that American politics is characterized by extremes. If one is Republican, then one is anti-abortion, anti-gay rights, anti-atheist, anti-this and anti-that. Further, one is quite possibly a Christian fundamentalist, too. On the other hands, if one is Democrat, one is pro-abortion, pro-gay rights, pro-atheist, pro-this and pro-that. Further, one is quite possibly very anti-religion to boot, and will probably be a relativist, assessing all religions as equally valid.
Politics isn't like that for me: It's not so clear cut. I take each issue on its merits. I see no reason why one cannot be right-wing and pro-gay rights or pro-abortion, for example. These things should have nothing to do with whether one is left- or right-wing; rather, they are human issues which affect us all.
For example, how many Republican mums and dads have gay kids? And how many Democrat mums and dads have such children? I dare say that the percentage in the population would be about equal.
I have heard so many people ranting and raving about such issues on Bill O'Reilly's show that it's enough to turn one's stomach. They rarely give each other a chance to finish what they wish to say. It's such a pity. We all have something to contribute, if only people would stop and listen to a different point of view.
By the way, the Bloviator doesn't have a clue about Islam. He needs to read my book, too.
Mark
Mussolini:
Isn't it sad that our culture demands we place labels and judge by them?
I agree. But is it our culture that makes the demands, or the people? It seems to me that it is the people who are making these demands rather than the culture.
Yet, we are in a struggle to label each other in our attempt to drive public opinion by how detestable any given label is in perception.
Yes, but it is all so childish! How, for example, can one be anti-abortion per se, or pro-abortion for that matter. It all depends on the case and the circumstances. I was once taught by a wise teacher, and very early in life, that Circumstances alter cases. This still holds true.
I cannot see for the life of me that one can have a blanket opinion on abortion, for example. What if the mother's life is in danger by giving birth to the child?
Years ago, it was the doctors who used to make a decision on whether to offer an abortion. And in those days, they were not offered very often, since in those days, children tended to be born within wedlock, and people weren't so loose in their morals.
It appears to me that what we should be against is not abortion (when the circumstances call for it), but against the declining morals in our societies, because without all this extra-marital sex, there'd be no need for all these abortions in the first place!
Again, with gay rights: I can't see how one can be anti-gay rights, for to be so is tantamount to saying that gays are sub-human, and don't deserve the chance to pursue happiness. The fact is that some people are gay, and they can do nothing about it. No more than they can do anything about the colour of their eyes, except mask that colour with coloured contact lenses.
But there are so many people pushing the gay agenda that it makes a mockery of the people who are genuine and 'clean-living', and who really are caught between a rock and a hard place. Surely they should have rights, too.
It seems to me that Western society has gone sex mad. One meets up with it even in adverts for coffee and chocolate.
Then you see all these lobby groups which make everything sound so cheap and tacky.
The fact is that some people need abortions - sometimes; and some people are genuinely gay.
Giving these people these rights should not be carte blanche for everyone to go out and have an orgy!
At the root of this is an immaturity that some have forced on the rest of us. This is nothing more than pre-school name-calling.
I agree wholeheartedly.
The older one gets, the more one realizes that there are some things in life which cannot be changed. What was that old saying, now?
God grant me the courage to change the things I can,
The serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
And the wisdom to know the difference.
Amen
Mark
AOW,
Thanks for the kind words!
Mark,
Wow! I'm not sure why you thought I deserved the answer you gave in response to my post. This time, I am the one who is confused.
I definitely do not agree with your assessments of Americans as being that simple-minded and blindly following whatever the party line is on each and every issue. Our thinking can be just as finely nuanced as yours on the issues.
It is a fact that the two main parties have grown futher apart over the decades, and thus more polarized.
That doesn't mean that the people who are stuck with such a choice are in complete agreement with the person/party they eventually vote for. I haven't voted for someone since the first time I voted. I was a lot more naive back then.
As far as Bush goes, yes I did vote for him. You might be surprised that in the Republican primary in 2000 I did not vote for him, I thought he was too much of a cowboy, among other things.
However, as it turns out, he was the better choice. The person I did vote for has turned out to be somewhat of a loose cannon since then. Perhaps he always was, I just didn't know it.
It goes to show politics is much more dynamic than they would like you to believe.
There are many issues I disagree with GW on--however, when I consider the alternatives, such as Kerry or Gore as president I know I made the right choice. I don't know how you would have voted or think we'd be in a better situation right now given those choices.
BTW--Why in the world did you watch O'Reilly? That guy is a full-of- himself blowhard. I don't know why they keep him on anymore. He lost whatever credibility he had years ago.
You're right about my military connection. My husband is a retired AF officer, and we do have members of our family and friends in the military. (I was not married to him during his career so I have more of a "civilian" perspective on things than he does).
You might be interested to know that many career military families, ours included, were against this war at the start, we thought it was a bad idea. I blame France, Russia, and Germany for not forcing Saddam into exile because of their "oil for food" interests. Found out later he was willing to go. That didn't make the headlines in the MSM, did it?
We are not for pulling out now and leaving Iraq in chaos as the Democrats and many of the Jane Fonda /Ken Livingstones of the world would like.
I find the continuous negativity of the MSM draining and unfair. Do you ever wonder why you don't read of any good news coming from Iraq?
It is similar in so many ways to the agenda carried out in Vietnam. That war was ours to win--the politicans are the ones who led us to defeat.
Heather:
Now I feel I know you so much better! :-)
Wow! I'm not sure why you thought I deserved the answer you gave in response to my post. This time, I am the one who is confused.
Maybe because you've been giving me such a hard time lately. :-)
I definitely do not agree with your assessments of Americans as being that simple-minded and blindly following whatever the party line is on each and every issue. Our thinking can be just as finely nuanced as yours on the issues.
I have not suggested, or at least I was trying to suggest, that Americans are "simple-minded". Not at all! I have great respect for Americans. Some of the finest people I have ever met have been Americans. And I mean that IN ALL SINCERITY.
I know that Americans can be just as "finely-nuanced" as anyone else. But one wouldn't get that impression from watching TV there sometimes.
It's just that when one watches TV there - especially, perhaps, Fox News - then one gets the impression that all Americans see everything in BLACK and WHITE. And life just isn't like that.
As far as Bush goes, yes I did vote for him. You might be surprised that in the Republican primary in 2000 I did not vote for him, I thought he was too much of a cowboy, among other things.
Had I been an American, I would probably have voted for him too. There simply was no other good person to choose from. But as far as I am concerned, he was the best of a bad bunch. The trouble is this: These days, good people don't run for office. That's true, I think, your side of the pond and mine.
BTW--Why in the world did you watch O'Reilly? That guy is a full-of- himself blowhard. I don't know why they keep him on anymore. He lost whatever credibility he had years ago.
'I don't know' is the answer to that one. I agree with you that he has lost credibility. And he is such a blowhard, as you Americans put it. A blowhard indeed! He loves himself! He thinks he's God's gift to the media. Whereas I used to like him, now I find him quite sickening. He talks so knowledgeably about Islam, and in actual fact he doesn't know anything much about it!
And doesn't he go on and on and on about the same things, night after night?
You're right about my military connection. My husband is a retired AF officer,...
Now how did I know that? Just a good guess, I suppose! But I am surprised by one thing: That you are old enough to have a husband who is already retired. I thought you were of, shall we say, a tender age. You come over as being very young at heart anyway.
You might be interested to know that many career military families, ours included, were against this war at the start, we thought it was a bad idea. I blame France, Russia, and Germany for not forcing Saddam into exile because of their "oil for food" interests. Found out later he was willing to go. That didn't make the headlines in the MSM, did it?
Yes, I am against it, too. No good will come of it, I am so, so, so sorry to say.
It's news to me that Saddam was willing to go, though. No, that didn't hit the MSM. Not at all! Is this really true?
We are not for pulling out now and leaving Iraq in chaos as the Democrats and many of the Jane Fonda /Ken Livingstones of the world would like.
Oh, no, I agree. We're in it now; and somehow, we have to win it, if only to save face. But I don't see us being aggressive enough. As Mrs. Thatcher used to say: I fight to win.
The trouble is that even our militaries seem to have lost the art of winning wars. These days, they're into surgical strikes and all that nonsense. They fight wars through the liberal media. The forces don't want a bad repuation. The fact remains, however, that all is fair in love and war. If we're in a war, then the kid gloves have to come off. If we are not prepared to take them off, then we shouldn't be in the war in the first place.
It is similar in so many ways to the agenda carried out in Vietnam. That war was ours to win--the politicans are the ones who led us to defeat.
That may well be.
PS: You still haven't answered my question: Have you read my book yet? If you haven't, and you don't want to 'waste' your money on it, then why don't you go to the public library and get them to buy it? That would help me, too.
Mark
Mark,
It's just that when one watches TV there - especially, perhaps, Fox News - then one gets the impression that all Americans see everything in BLACK and WHITE. And life just isn't like that.
That's the MSM for you. I find it equally, if not more true on CNN--except they are very one-sided in most of their coverage. The only program I like on CNN is Lou Dobbs, and occasionally Paula Zahn. I don't watch much of Fox.
Now how did I know that? Just a good guess, I suppose! But I am surprised by one thing: That you are old enough to have a husband who is already retired. I thought you were of, shall we say, a tender age. You come over as being very young at heart anyway.
I think I may have mentioned it in a post. My husband is 10 years older than I am. He retired at age 42, and has other employment, unrelated to the military now. It's funny you thought I was young, do I sound that naive? You're right about the young at heart part.
The trouble is that even our militaries seem to have lost the art of winning wars. These days, they're into surgical strikes and all that nonsense. They fight wars through the liberal media. The forces don't want a bad repuation. The fact remains, however, that all is fair in love and war. If we're in a war, then the kid gloves have to come off. If we are not prepared to take them off, then we shouldn't be in the war in the first place.
I think you have that wrong. It is the military that have been hampered by the politicians and those in the MSM from doing their jobs. It's a very frustrating position to be in, let me assure you. Kind of like being in the corporate world and working for a moron who knows nothing about the company or how to lead it.
PS: You still haven't answered my question: Have you read my book yet? If you haven't, and you don't want to 'waste' your money on it, then why don't you go to the public library and get them to buy it? That would help me, too.
I haven’t read your book yet. I did look for it and request it from my library some time ago. I checked and they don’t have it yet.
I will be making a trip to the bookstore during the next week to look for your book. I promise to read it sometime during the next month-- I have a few books on loan to read first.
I'm a voracious reader so I do have a tendency to wait until a book is available from my library to read it. It’s saved me a small fortune.
I promise to donate my copy of your book to my local library when I'm done reading it.
Heather:
That's the MSM for you. I find it equally, if not more true on CNN--except they are very one-sided in most of their coverage. The only program I like on CNN is Lou Dobbs, and occasionally Paula Zahn. I don't watch much of Fox.
Yes, I quite like those two presenters as well.
...do I sound that naive? You're right about the young at heart part.
Certainly not! Naïve? Nothing like it! But young at heart, yes!
I think you have that wrong. It is the military that have been hampered by the politicians and those in the MSM from doing their jobs.
Yes, I do realize this. I mis-wrote what I meant. Politics, I think, is the root of all evil!
It's a very frustrating position to be in, let me assure you. Kind of like being in the corporate world and working for a moron who knows nothing about the company or how to lead it.
I can well imagine!
I haven’t read your book yet. I did look for it and request it from my library some time ago. I checked and they don’t have it yet.
I will be making a trip to the bookstore during the next week to look for your book. I promise to read it sometime during the next month-- I have a few books on loan to read first.
You might have better luck on the Internet. It's widely availble on the Internet. Though some stores do have it over there. If they don't have it, you can certainly order it from any of them.
I am so glad you're going to read it. You have been coming back and forth to my website for so long now that I feel you are part of the family! Now isn't that nice? :-)
Now I hope that with this we have finally got things straight between us! :-)
I shall look forward to your next comment.
BTW: I hope you've finished painting now. That's a tedious job if ever there was one!
One last thing:
It's news to me that Saddam was willing to go, though. No, that didn't hit the MSM. Not at all! Is this really true?
Here's the only link I can find. This was in the news last fall and has now just about vanished.
Arab nations rejected Saddam exile plan
Maybe you can explain why this wasn't in every headline in the world--and now it has all but disappreared. Anything to do the the ROP?
Heather:
Another wonderful link! Where DO you find them?
Do you know, it's a funny thing, but when I read this, I had a vague recollection of it.
As you rightly ask, why did this get hushed up? Actually, one can only guess. But wouldn't it have saved so many lives, to say nothing of tax dollars (and pounds!) if the man had simply been sent into exile.
Could it, perhaps, have something to do with GWB's obsession with bringing democracy to the Middle East? Is that why the American government didn't push harder for this solution, I wonder?
Heather, I have come to an age now in which I trust almost no politician. They're all slippery, regardless of their hue.
Could it, perhaps, have something to do with GWB's obsession with bringing democracy to the Middle East? Is that why the American government didn't push harder for this solution, I wonder?
Actually, the article said it was the Arab League that blocked his exile. Now, that made me very curious indeed. I was hoping you could shed some light on this organization.
Remember how the whole cartoon controversy really didn't take off until it was orchestrated four months after the fact? I smell something rotten here.
BTW-I am happy to tell you that my local bookstore has ordered your book for me. It should be in sometime next week. I look forward to reading it. :>
Heather:
Actually, the article said it was the Arab League that blocked his exile. Now, that made me very curious indeed. I was hoping you could shed some light on this organization.
Yes, it is curious that the Arab League should have blocked his exile, I agree. One can only wonder why.
Unfortunately, I cannot shed any light on this. I have no inside scoops, or anything. Sorry.
Here's a profile on the Arab League from the BBC.
I smell something rotten here.
There could well be something rotten here. Isn't there something rotten in the whole thing?
BTW-I am happy to tell you that my local bookstore has ordered your book for me. It should be in sometime next week. I look forward to reading it. :>
That's good news. I shall look forward to receiving your comments. :-)
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