Islam is deeply anti-woman. Islam is the fundamental cause of the repression of Muslim women and remains the major obstacle to the evolution of their position. Islam has always considered women as creatures inferior in every way: physically, intellectually, and morally. This negative vision is divinely sanctioned in the Koran, corroborated by the hadiths, and perpetuated by the commentaries of the theologians, the custodians of Muslim dogma and ignorance.Mark Alexander
Far better for these intellectuals to abandon the religious argument, to reject these sacred texts, and have recourse to reason alone. They should turn instead to human rights. The Universal Declaration of Human Rights (adopted on December 10, 1948, by the General Assembly of the United Nations in Paris and ratified by most Muslim countries) at no point has recourse to a religious argument. These rights are based on natural rights, which any adult human being capable of choice has. They are rights that human beings have simply because they are human beings. Human reason or rationality is the ultimate arbiter of rights - human rights, the rights of women. Islam's Shame, Lifting the Veil of Tears by Ibn Warraq
Wednesday, September 06, 2006
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MUSSOLINI:
Most women adore being treated like crap.
Strong words! But there is much truth in them. Many, many women seem to prefer men who 'treat them rough'.
This is why women are turning to islam in mass numbers.
This is certainly one reason why they are doing so. Another reason, I would suggest, is that many women prefer to be protected and cared for. Working outside the home, and the 'rat race' are not what many women want, despite what the feminists would have us believe. Islam offers them such an option. It's okay for the Muslimah to be cared for.
Further, 'modern man' does not make women feel safe. They aren't masculine enough. Muslims, with their beards and manly ways are.
Many women like being told what to do.
Perhaps not as wry... Islam is fulfilling a hole in the soul that has been dug by political correctness and moral equivocation.
You're so right.
People hunger for some order in their lives, some boundaries and limits. It provides a comfort of familiarity.
They certainly do. The West, today, is characterized by constant change and chaos. Who is to say what is right and what is wrong anymore?
In the West, we have declared anything goes. Morals are wrong, and the worst deeds are excused.
Exactly!
Islam is stepping into this vacuum.
Yes, it is; and the women who one time fought for freedom will relinquish it for a false deity! Crazy, isn't it?
Far better for these intellectuals to abandon the religious argument, to reject these sacred texts, and have recourse to reason alone. They should turn instead to human rights.
These rights are based on natural rights, which any adult human being capable of choice has. They are rights that human beings have simply because they are human beings. Human reason or rationality is the ultimate arbiter of rights - human rights.
And therein lies the problem!
What on earth are "natural rights"? Surely we cannot claim "rights" simply because we are human?! What does this mean? Wherein lies the authority? How will these rights be codified and defended?
History has shown that "rights" spring either from some imperfect theology (as all theologies are, in my view), or that they have been fought and died for. Their retention requires the continuation of the struggle. A portfolio of "rights" is simply part of any ideology.
Whether they "seem moral" or not, seem "just" or not, depends entirely on one's background.
We in the West face a very profound philosophical challenge, I would argue. I believe we will win in the end because human nature likes joy more than death, and grappling with serious problems more than certainty and dogma. I have discussed this earlier, but I am not sure that I put my points across very well.
Mussolini says, Islam is fulfilling a hole in the soul that has been dug by political correctness and moral equivocation.
People hunger for some order in their lives, some boundaries and limits. It provides a comfort of familiarity.
This is very much what I was trying to address. One of the main problems we face is the seductive nature of "certain answers" to doubt. To this extent, I am very much afraid to say, all religions and all cults have something in common. Certainty is strong wine. People will die for it - and people will kill for it. What matters is the certainty, the relief of deep anxiety. Nazism had the exact same appeal.
I refuse to be defeatist. I do believe - in the long term - we will win. I certainly hope so because I have two splendid grandsons, and they will have to take the struggle forward.
To quote an Israeli soldier (interviewed while protesting the ineffectual prosecution of the Lebanon conflict by his government): We will win because we fight for love, and they fight for hate.
Guess I'll get a little flaming for this. Don't mind. It's difficult for a simple-minded atheist geologist to write in any depth about these matters.
But I do think they matter...
Mark: please feel free to delete if you judge that the bloody muslims will quote anything to their filthy purpose.
Rockmother, I wouldn't delete such a beautifully-written piece of prose. What you wrote is not personal; rather, it is a viewpoint.
What I reject is garbage written in hate. I particularly dislike personal comments which are abusive and offensive.
Ta, Mate!
Mark, I have read your post about behaviour in comments. I think you are absolutely right to maintain the essential dignity of your blog. I realise that I may have sailed quite close to the wind in some previous posts, and thank you for demanding that we uphold true Western standards.
My concern here was that stuff lifted out of the context of serious analytical discussion would be used against us.
The Press stinks. And the muslims, no doubt, have learned many lessons from them.
Thank you for your very kind words.
Most women adore being treated like crap.
Muss is quite right! Dig a bit deeper though, and you'll see that "most men adore being treated like crap" as well.
'Nother words, b'lieve islam!, be a virgin, blow as many whores (of either sex) to bits.
Depart this life before you've had a suspicion of human pleasure and joy and (sorry, Muss!) lurve...
They aren't masculine enough. Muslims, with their beards and manly ways are.
'Scuse me, Mark. But I rather like men who can rise to a real fight. Includes yourself and (probably) Muss and the Old Nail.
We may disagree on this and that, but I know who I'd want to defend my children!
(And I quite like a real fight myself. I've had a few. And the bullets have been real, at times!)
In the meantime, I'm off to cook a pork (and cider - oh dear) dinner...
In the West, we have declared anything goes. Morals are wrong, and the worst deeds are excused.
What worst deeds, Mussonlini?
I refer you to 18th Century British History...
Doesn't seem so bad now, does it?
Rockmother:
Thank you for your kind words, too! By the way, I like the sound of your kitchen! Lots of succulent pork, and plenty of alcohol! Yummie!
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