THE SUNDAY TIMES: FAR-RIGHT extremists have adopted the tactics of Islamic jihadists by posting videos on the internet in which they threaten to behead British Muslims.Mark Alexander
The films show balaclava-clad white British men brandishing guns, knives and clubs, calling on all Muslims to leave the United Kingdom or be killed. One appears to be a soldier who has served in the Gulf.
In one film a man tells Muslims to “go home” or risk being burnt alive. He threatens: “I’ll cut your head off,” and claims to have “comrades” across Britain who have “had enough”. White extremists use terror videos to threaten Muslims
Sunday, September 03, 2006
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I have to be honest and say that I see this as a predictable consequence of government inaction in the face of this growing menace. If the government will not take concrete steps to secure the peace of the releam, then they will by default, usher in a reaction over which they will have no control. Now watch as this sorry excuse for legitimate leadership, marshalls all of its moral outrage in the courses of crushing this new "threat to the peace". We are about to be witness to the most spectacular piece of political hypocrisy rammed down the throat of a long suffering nation. NuLabour, in true form, will continue to back the natural enemeies of Britain, while suppressing the indeginous population, all for the sake of sanctifying their moral pieties...multiculturalism, which must be protected at all costs, even if they must destroy a nation to do so; though I wouldn't bank on their long term success, those new extremists they so despise, are likely to be the first inklings of an avalanche to come, and it couldn't happen to a more deserving buch of fools as far as I'm concerned. I just weep for the pain and destruction that the country I love will have to go through all because of idiots in high places. What was it Francis Bacon said on nihilists, oh yes..."It is in the nature of the self lover, that he will burn his own house down, for to roast his eggs".
Just Another Richard:
I have to be honest and say that I see this as a predictable consequence of government inaction in the face of this growing menace. If the government will not take concrete steps to secure the peace of the releam, then they will by default, usher in a reaction over which they will have no control.
Yes, it is a predictable consequence, I'm afraid. The British are a tolerant lot; but there is a limit even to their tolerance. Maybe now the Muslims will taste a little of their own medicine. That will concentrate their minds! Though I hasten to add that I don't condone such behaviour. I find it barbaric in the extreme. To behave in this manner is tantamount to stooping to their level.
Mark, while we can both decry the
descent of a once peaceful and contented nation into the anarchy and chaos which our lords and masters have bequeathed to us all, it may be the only way in the longer term, to at least give the country a fighting chance at recovering its own security and tranquility, for left to the tender ministrations of NuLabour's superior moralising, all the while serving a latent agenda of radical social engineering, something has to act as the axe that cuts the
bindings that hold the polity in paralysis.
Maybe, just maybe, this will be the slashing axe that breaks the spell of deceit that the left have woven around the social discourse. No, I can't say I like it either, but the ruling elite have left the country no choice but to descend into the cauldron of fire, to cleanse the prevailing meme of political correctness, so that we may take a proactive response to the pressing issues facing us, rather than this passive, "oh everything will work out OK, go back to sleep" attitude being foisted upon the nation now.
Anything is better than what the elite have planned for us all anyway.
Paracelsus:
The fact of the matter is this: If the government of the day fails to take control of these matters, then the people will start to take control of them themselves. This, as you know, is how civil unrest, and eventually civil war, come about. So, as you say, we shouldn't be surprised.
And, as Just Another Richard said: People will only tolerate this PC nonsense for so long. They've already had enough of the pabulum.
Richard.
"those new extremists they so despise, are likely to be the first inklings of an avalanche to come, and it couldn't happen to a more deserving buch of fools as far as I'm concerned."
My thoughts exactly, very well put.
Jimmy jones:
"But muslims who become terroists or extremists, see thier people killed by your race , so they kill your non muslim people.
so what is the difference???"
The difference is that you are hypocrites, we tire of Muslim 'victim status' mentality against the west.
How many civilians have died this week in Iraq? and how many of those were Muslims killed by their own people in car bombs?
JJ again.
"you can babble about, " oh, its not just one, its the whole bunch of you". but mark, my kafir friend, you are so wrong."
The only example of Muslims living in peace is in your imagination, would Kurdish, Turkish, or Iraqi Muslims agree with your statement?
"just like most of the coward racists talk,"
So your definition of bravery is to wear no uniform, hide amongst civilians in order to kill other civilians, then cry 'human rights' when caught?
"they say go home, but i am home, English is my language, i have a british passport, i eat english food, i have english friends,"
But your religion teaches that those English friends of yours are 'Infidels', and you yourself refer to us as 'Kafir', yet are deeply offended should you be considered a 'wog'.
You consider yourself English? Do you agree or disagree with the following statement made recently;
"WE ARE NOT EUROPEAN MUSLIMS, BUT MUSLIMS IN EUROPE!"
Jihadnumber1
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lets see what this solider is about, i box, do tai djitsu, at the bloody gym 5 times a week! and dont be surprised if you see me in th octagon at the UFC in about a years time.
i would love to thai kick him in the head right know as well as mark and anyone against my people!!!"
I have a mental picture of the guy in the Indiana Jones movie, the one who stood there waving his sword and posturing with a display of prowess....I think you know the rest!
I agree with 'just another richard' Our politicians failure to deal with this issue in decisive way will enable the good and decent people to take action. We will not standby and let the fascist idiots destroy the freedoms our fathers and grandfathers fought for. What pathetic incompetents our politicians are. They steal from us and do nothing to protect us.
JJ
"get your facts right mate, dont open your mouth on bithcin about what you think, or what you have heard!!"
Firstly, I'll try to educate you as to the way discussions are held between civilised people.
Personal insults such as you have had to stoop to in your piss-poor excuse for a reply only serve to make you look the fat headed fool, 'innit?'
Also I do not wish to be refered to as 'mate', certainly not by you.
Secondly, you admit that your religion teaches you that you are better than others, then you hide behind race descrimination laws that punish other people for treating you as anything other than an equal.
The arrogance of your person shows through in believing that you must try to convert non-Muslims to Islam.
I and many others are athiests, why must you therefore label us with a derogatary name?
You also say;
""to me is my way, to you, yours is your way.
my way is not your, your way is not my way."
That sounds good, so how come that when I choose 'My way' and not 'your way' under sharia law I am to be considered some kind of second class citizen in Dhimmitute? Oh yes! I do know how it works, the unfortunate thing is that the British people have been to trusting, the more they now find out about the aims of Islam the more they will turn against it.
With regard the killing of Muslims in foriegn countries you say;
"and out of all the muslim countries you chose IRAQ! it is at war, what the hell do you expect."
And yet you, and no doubt countless like you, use these deaths as evidence of western brutality, you whine about British foriegn policy yet is is your fellow Muslims that are doing the most killing.
You say I chose Iraq? Well, ok, have you ever heard of Bali? Somalia? Madrid? new York? London? are you saying that as well as the many innocent women and children killed at those places there were none of them Muslim?
Finally, neither I, nor any right thinking person believes that 'all Muslims must die' as you say.
I wish to live in peace, I respect the rights of others, your statement is again part of the twisted view that you have of western society.
The west has been at the forefront of the advances in technology, medicine, art, music and literature, for four hundred years or more, can you name me three things that your culture has invented in the last 100 years that has been for the good or advancement of mankind?...ok I'll make it easy for you, name just two then.
Jihadinumber1,
"No i am not with terrorists.bloody hate them, disgracing our religion!!!!!!!"
I agree with you entirely, how unfortunate then that the sincerity of your claim is mocked by the blog name that you chose for yourself. Perhaps if you think about it you might guess how we westerners get to 'misunderstand' you so often?
And lastly I would make it clear that I did not use the term 'Wog' to describe you, simply to point out that it is an old term that was used to describe asians.
We white British no longer use it as it is a derogatory term, much as your 'kafir' seems to be toward us.
As you seem a man so ready to use his hands and fists, then why not use them against those terrorists that you claim are 'disgracing our religion' instead of attempting to intimidate?
Well-stated, Old Nail! Well-stated!
Excellent, Temple!
Exactly so temple!
I had to smile when I read the 'making friends' part of JJ's reply.
I had a mental image of the Muslim armies standing at the gates of Vienna, having come along just to ask if we were ok! :-)
The frightening part is that many of the young British Muslims are less aware of their actual history, and take as truth the 'blinkered' version of the extremists.
Junior1
"My questions to you is,
how do you act when you see a muslim?
Or when a muslims talks to you?"
Answer;
I treat him with equal courtesy. I treat each individual exactly as they treat me.
Now my question to you is:
how do you define a 'typical racist?', Is a racist defined as 'anyone that disagrees with you?'
"if i ever saw a terrorist, mate sorry i mean doggy,would kick the crap out of him"
I see that my attempt to introduce you into the rules of CIVILISED discussion was lost on you.
My answer to you is;
How would you know a terrorist if you saw one?...Would it be that you would become suspicious of his Muslim attire?
Or perhaps you would detect him from the vast amount of explosives strapped around his waist?
If it's the former, then it is impossible, and 'racist' to do so, if it was the latter, then please do go ahead and 'kick the shit out of him'.
I have to admire a man smart enough to kick a guy full of explosives! :-)
"And me using intimidating behaviour, before you start blaming my religion for that, it is not my religion, it is the western society that has raised me like that, the violence on the street, the violent racism."
What an utter cop out! Are you seriously asking us to believe that you are not capable of personal choices? That you are not responsible for your own conduct as an adult individual?
LOL... you know that one right?
"You have made some muslims alienated and ask us why we are not mixing much with non-muslims."
More crap, Muslims prefer to live in Muslim communities rather than integrate, as stated in the koran you will attempt to 'take over and islamicise' one area, before expanding to others.
"ALL MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS!"
I agree, but unfortunately almost all terrorists these days are Muslim.
"You talk of kafir being so insulting to westerners. I would beg to differ, i have asked so many people if they know what kafir means, but are ignorant on it.
And even when i tell them what it means it rarely seems to bother them."
That's because we don't cry 'racist' or take to the streets fiegning outrage over the slightest thing as easily as Muslims do.
"Peace is a beutifull thing, but there will never be peace until Jihad."
Which roughly translated means that there will never be peace until the world has bowed to Islam? Is that what you mean?
Jihad is supposed to be an INNER spiritual struggle I believe, not an external conquest.
I agree that peace is a wonderful thing, and believe it or not most westerners want it too, but they do hold freedom of a higher value.
"Maybe they should have looked at the peacefull protest after the publication of the sicking cartoons of mohammed"
Which ones? Not the ones that burned down the Danish embassy then?
Not the ones in London with placards saying "To hell with democracy" or " Death to infidels"?
The fact is there are always thousands willing to take to the streets to voice anti-western anger, but were are the thousands carrying placards that read "Not in My name" or " Terrorists, stop disgracing us?"
"Jimmy i think we need to write up a book with picture, aswell as crayons to colour them to understand."
Yes Jimmy, and while you've got your crayons out... I seem to have missed your answer about those three things that your culture has produced to truly benefit mankind in the last 100 years, funnily enough your mate didn't mention them either!
I'm done on this subject now, I'll say no more.
If you took the time to realise J1 that all you need to do is communicate with us without trying to make 'clever' remarks - something you are obviously ill-equipped to do, you might have actually made a point worth discussion.
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